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		<title>Virtualmin Employee Issues Public Insult</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess Joe @ VirtualMin was itching to insult someone.
Perhaps he couldn&#8217;t make it to the Paralympic Games this year to mock the athletes&#8230;
While deploying a new Debian 5.0 virtual server at Rackspace (excellent company), I ran into a problem installing the GPL version of Virtualmin.
Having not seen this issue before, I &#8220;live chatted&#8221; with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess Joe @ VirtualMin was itching to insult someone.</p>
<p>Perhaps he couldn&#8217;t make it to the <a href="http://www.paralympic.org/" target="_blank">Paralympic Games</a> this year to mock the athletes&#8230;</p>
<p>While deploying a new <a class="zem_slink" title="Debian" rel="homepage" href="http://www.debian.org/">Debian</a> 5.0 virtual server at <a href="http://www.rackspacecloud.com/" target="_blank">Rackspace</a> (excellent company), I ran into a problem installing the GPL version of <a href="http://virtualmin.com" target="_blank">Virtualmin</a>.</p>
<p>Having not seen this issue before, I &#8220;live chatted&#8221; with Rackspace support, who rightly informed me to contact the vendor.  So I posted on the virtualmin forum, and then I posted on the site <a href="http://serverfault.com/" target="_blank">serverfault.com</a></p>
<p>Here is what I posted:  (the 17 second video of the installation failure and all the error messages is linked below)</p>
<div id="attachment_736" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://pridebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/vm-question-serverfault.png"><img class="size-medium wp-image-736" title="vm-question-serverfault" src="http://pridebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/vm-question-serverfault-300x155.png" alt="" width="300" height="155" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">http://serverfault.com/questions/119900/virtualmin-install-failing-on-rackspace-debian-5-0/120177#120177</p></div>
<p>Here is a link to the video file I linked to : <a href="http://pridebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/2010-03-06_1316.mp4">2010-03-06_1316</a> (removed from the screen shot only to prevent my bandwidth cap on my free Screencast.com account from being exceeded)</p>
<p>At any rate, this wasn&#8217;t my first run through of the installation, so I decided to call it quits and see what solutions the ServerFault.com community could offer.</p>
<p>The next day&#8230;</p>
<p>I suppose I should have been excited that a real Virtualmin employee answered the question &#8211; except that he told me I was <a class="zem_slink" title="Mental disorder" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorder">mentally ill</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The video isn&#8217;t working for me. Besides that, it&#8217;s <strong>insane</strong> to post a  video of a terminal session. I mean, like, <strong>clinically</strong>. You need <strong>medical  attention</strong> immediately. Some sort of <strong>anti-psychotic drug</strong> or something.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here is his &#8220;answer&#8221; to my question:</p>
<div id="attachment_728" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://pridebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/You-Are-Mentally-Ill1.png"><img class="size-medium wp-image-728" title="You-Are-Mentally-Ill" src="http://pridebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/You-Are-Mentally-Ill1-300x225.png" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">http://serverfault.com/questions/119900/virtualmin-install-failing-on-rackspace-debian-5-0/120177#120177</p></div>
<p>Ok &#8211; so he seems to be telling me that a video of the failure isn&#8217;t the best possible way to have transmitted the information.  I think</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Please paste the log file&#8221; would have sufficed, don&#8217;t you?</p></blockquote>
<p>I have a cousin with schizophrenia.  She takes anti-psychotic medication.  I&#8217;m sure she, her psychiatrist and the <a href="http://www.cmha.ca" target="_blank">Canadian Mental Health Association</a> would be thrilled to know this serious medical condition is being used as an insult by a Virtualmin employee.</p>
<p>Here is an entry from the Serverfault.com FAQ:</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>Be nice.</h3>
<p>Treat others with the  same respect you&#8217;d want them to                     treat you. We&#8217;re all here to learn together.  Be tolerant of others who                 may not know everything you know. Bring your sense of  humor.</p></blockquote>
<p>I guess the last sentence of that entry needs to be more specific:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Bring your sense of humor, unless your humor includes mocking someone with a disability, thereby perpetuating the stigma of mental illness.<br />
</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>And here is the man himself:  Perl scripter, part time psychiatrist, and all around meanie:</p>
<div id="attachment_729" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://pridebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Swell-Joe-Arse.png"><img class="size-medium wp-image-729" title="Swell-Joe-Arse" src="http://pridebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Swell-Joe-Arse-300x169.png" alt="" width="300" height="169" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">http://serverfault.com/users/3887/swelljoe</p></div>
<p>My advice if you&#8217;re contemplating a web-based control panel for your server or website:  Either get it working without asking any questions, or risk public humiliation at the hands of their forum trolls.</p>
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